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Post by gljbradley on Apr 13, 2019 20:06:22 GMT -8
It'd be great to see a resurgence of R-rated comic book films down the line. Saw Shazam last weekend and found it quite fun. Different from the usual comic book film and all the better for it. It had moments that were definitely Horror-like, particularly whenever the demonic manifestations of the Seven Deadly Sins were present. And I hope that still happens despite what's going on with Hellboy. I'm glad that Shazam was good. I was planning on going to see it this weekend but I've been feeling seriously under the weather the last couple of days. My body has been aching badly. I've heard that some people thought that the villain of the film was meh but the concept of him sounds pretty cool. |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Apr 13, 2019 20:17:36 GMT -8
Hope you get better ASAP, never fun to be sick or not feel well.
Hellboy was sadly a disappointment. The new actor did fine in the role but the movie itself was a disappointing misfire. Cartoony CGI, a sloppy and unstructured plot, forgettable villains and bland action scenes. Makes it all the more unfortunate Del Toro never got to finish up his trilogy, and surely whatever he would've done would've been far better than this.
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Post by gljbradley on Apr 17, 2019 6:36:10 GMT -8
Hope you get better ASAP, never fun to be sick or not feel well. Hellboy was sadly a disappointment. The new actor did fine in the role but the movie itself was a disappointing misfire. Cartoony CGI, a sloppy and unstructured plot, forgettable villains and bland action scenes. Makes it all the more unfortunate Del Toro never got to finish up his trilogy, and surely whatever he would've done would've been far better than this. Thank you. I'm gradually getting well. I already know about how Hellboy is getting trashed by critics and most people. I've heard that some people thought that David Harbour was good as Hellboy. But in terms of story and structure, the movie was incoherent and terrible. It came out that there was behind the scenes trouble between the director and two producers, there were too many producers, and Harbour and the other cast members were having trouble with their lines because of the script. I'm sorry that Hellboy was disappointing. I still want to see the film, though. And yes, Del Toro should've finished his trilogy but I don't know why it took so long to where it ultimately prevented the third film from being made. Still, I hope that this doesn't tarnish Hellboy.  Hearing about the previously mentioned stuff concerning the behind the scenes drama and the critical situation had dampened my spirits the last several days while I was already quite sick. I just hope that some good comes out of this somehow. |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Apr 17, 2019 11:47:22 GMT -8
Sad thing about Hellboy's failure is the character's future in theatrical movies is likely doomed as a result of this. The studio is fully to blame for poor promotion where there was virtually no hype and on top of that releasing it just before Easter weekend and a mere two weeks before Avengers: Endgame, which is an assured box office titan. The studio practically committed box office suicide with their poor promotion and handling. Harbour did very good as Hellboy and it's really a shame his talents weren't put to better use here. You can tell he put so much effort into the role and sadly it was for nought in the final product.
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Post by gljbradley on Apr 18, 2019 6:49:58 GMT -8
Sad thing about Hellboy's failure is the character's future in theatrical movies is likely doomed as a result of this. The studio is fully to blame for poor promotion where there was virtually no hype and on top of that releasing it just before Easter weekend and a mere two weeks before Avengers: Endgame, which is an assured box office titan. The studio practically committed box office suicide with their poor promotion and handling. Harbour did very good as Hellboy and it's really a shame his talents weren't put to better use here. You can tell he put so much effort into the role and sadly it was for naught in the final product. I agree. I'm extremely concerned about the character's future in movies. That's now up in the air. I heard that the film was initially supposed to be released in January of this year instead of April. But for some reason, Lionsgate moved it to April. I already knew that the other films like Shazam, Avengers: Endgame, Pet Sematary, and other films were being released in that month. As you stated, with the film being released about a week before Easter and two weeks before Endgame, this wasn't going to end well. And I totally agree that this is all Lionsgate's fault when it comes to them not properly handling and promoting the film. Except for Internet promotions and trailers being shown on MTV, I don't remember them promoting the film as much as they should have. Yes, that could be partially because the film is R rated. But, that's still no excuse to not at least garner some more attention and interest for the film in other ways. I agree with whoever said that they should've released the film in October. That way, they probably would've fixed it with some rewrites and reshoots. I figured that David Harbour did a good job as Hellboy. From what I've seen in the trailers and clips, he's just fine as ole Red. Even in some of the bad reviews, his performance is said to be decent to good. He definitely did put a lot of effort into the role and seem to enjoy it. Even though it's kind of wishful thinking at this point, he deserves to return as Hellboy. |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Apr 18, 2019 12:05:52 GMT -8
It would've been more fitting for an October release. Granted there's Horror films that do well even when not released in October but with the Summer blockbuster season upon us it was suicide to release it up against the likes of Shazam and Avengers: Endgame, and then you've got other assured heavy hitters like Godzilla: King Of The Monsters. Perhaps it may have fared better in January which is infamous for being a slow month at the box office where it could've had legs.
I sadly don't see any studio wanting anything to do with Hellboy after this, but I too would be all for David Harbour returning. He deserves to be in a better film as the character.
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Post by gljbradley on May 29, 2019 23:09:58 GMT -8
I wanted to tell you that I had finally seen Shazam! a few weeks back and I LOVE it!!! It felt like a Marvel Movie and a Steven Spielberg movie from the 80s and 90s. Just about everything about it was great! It was so HILARIOUS and HEARTWARMING. The two actors who portrayed Billy Batson/Shazam were AWESOME! Everyone in the cast did an AMAZING JOB!  |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on May 30, 2019 13:56:00 GMT -8
Shazam was a lot of fun and a breath of fresh air for comic book films. It really feels like the best Marvel movie that's not actually from Marvel but feels like it just fits right in. It definitely had some strong Horror elements to it at times, especially when the Seven Deadly Sins were present.
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Post by gljbradley on Jun 2, 2019 0:03:50 GMT -8
Shazam was a lot of fun and a breath of fresh air for comic book films. It really feels like the best Marvel movie that's not actually from Marvel but feels like it just fits right in. It definitely had some strong Horror elements to it at times, especially when the Seven Deadly Sins were present. Exactly! It's like it's one of the BEST Marvel Movies ever even though it's not made by Marvel Studios. LOL! DC and WB basically took the great elements of the Marvel Movies and applied them to this film, and it worked perfectly! And yes, you were absolutely right about the horror elements in the film. I know you've told me that before I had eventually seen the film. But I was genuinely surprised to see strong horror elements in the film. Maybe that's why the film kind of reminds me of a Spielberg film from the 80s and 90s because his films from that time period had strong horror elements in them even though most of them weren't horror films. The Seven Deadly Sins creatures in this film were cool and SCARY AS HELL!!! One of the scariest scenes in the film for me was the scene where the main villain went to get revenge on his father and brother. He viciously killed his brother, even though he was an asshole, by throwing him out of the window and had the Seven Deadly Sins beasts attack and kill everyone at the meeting. What really disturbed me was when they cut to outside of the business meeting room, the receptionist heard the screaming and everyone in the room was all of sudden plastered on the white and somewhat translucent screens. It rightfully freaked the poor guy out to where he got the hell up on out of there! THAT SCENE WAS SOMETHING STRAIGHT OUT OF A HORROR FILM! I'm surprised that I haven't had any nightmares about that scene. LOL! |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Jun 2, 2019 11:33:45 GMT -8
That was a very scary moment and I think had I been a kid seeing that scene it probably would've scared me. The designs for the Seven Deadly Sins were excellent and iconic in their own right. Although the movie was promoted as being comedic and had plenty of humor in it it was surprisingly serious much of the time and went into straight-up Horror terrain whenever the Seven Deadly Sins were present.
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Post by gljbradley on Jun 2, 2019 19:24:11 GMT -8
That was a very scary moment and I think had I been a kid seeing that scene it probably would've scared me. The designs for the Seven Deadly Sins were excellent and iconic in their own right. Although the movie was promoted as being comedic and had plenty of humor in it it was surprisingly serious much of the time and went into straight-up Horror terrain whenever the Seven Deadly Sins were present. Same here. If I was 20 years younger, this scene would've scared me silly! Also, several scenes before that scene where the main villain's assistant ends up dying was pretty horrifying as well. It was quick yet creepy. I agree that the designs for the Seven Deadly Sins creatures were excellent and iconic! Those things are FRIGHTENING! And I even found it creepy when the villain showed up after he found Shazam after his little public argument with Freddy.
Yes, the film was promoted as comedic and adventurous, which it is, BUT as you said, it's surprising with the amount of horror stuff that it also has. A lot of nightmare fuel.
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Jun 2, 2019 19:56:30 GMT -8
The director previously directed Horror films before Shazam, so it's no surprise in a way the film has many Horror-y elements to it. I'd love to see what he could do with a darker Marvel character, after how well Shazam was handled. We need more Horror-oriented superhero films for sure and ones that are good.
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Post by gljbradley on Jun 5, 2019 21:55:02 GMT -8
The director previously directed Horror films before Shazam, so it's no surprise in a way the film has many Horror-y elements to it. I'd love to see what he could do with a darker Marvel character, after how well Shazam was handled. We need more Horror-oriented superhero films for sure and ones that are good. What horror film did David Sandberg direct before this film? But yes, I totally agree that he has added Horror elements to this film since he also specializes in horror. In fact, I read somewhere that there are some horror directors who surprisingly direct good superhero films. I forgot the name of the article but I'll find it. You said it! |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Jun 6, 2019 15:49:38 GMT -8
The director previously did Lights Out and Annabelle: Creation, both of which are pretty good and worth a look if you've never seen either.
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Post by gljbradley on Jun 6, 2019 22:19:59 GMT -8
The director previously did Lights Out and Annabelle: Creation, both of which are pretty good and worth a look if you've never seen either. Oh okay. I've heard of those films and I've yet to see them. I'd like to see Lights Out. I remember seeing the trailers for that film and became creeped out. |
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Hearing about the previously mentioned stuff concerning the behind the scenes drama and the critical situation had dampened my spirits the last several days while I was already quite sick. I just hope that some good comes out of this somehow.