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Post by Crypt Keeper on Dec 21, 2018 22:59:41 GMT -8
The 1997 Spawn film was indeed PG-13 but did get an R-rated cut later on. It's been so long since I last watched it that I can't really remember if I liked it or not.
On the subject of the RoboCop cartoon, it was surprisingly not bad and rather mature at times, which perhaps was to be expected given the source material. A new animated RoboCop series aimed at adult audiences and having the same R-rated content as the first two movies could be awesome if done right.
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Post by gljbradley on Dec 22, 2018 16:13:58 GMT -8
The 1997 Spawn film was indeed PG-13 but did get an R-rated cut later on. It's been so long since I last watched it that I can't really remember if I liked it or not. On the subject of the RoboCop cartoon, it was surprisingly not bad and rather mature at times, which perhaps was to be expected given the source material. A new animated RoboCop series aimed at adult audiences and having the same R-rated content as the first two movies could be awesome if done right. Yeah, I know it did eventually get an R rating cut which is unnecessary like in many cases where a film is released as PG-13 but gets an R rated cut on DVD or Bluray. It's a waste of time seeing different cuts of the same damn movie. It's been a while since I'd seen the film, as well. I remember it being pretty good. I've never seen the RoboCop cartoon before but I imagine that it is what you say it is.
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Dec 22, 2018 22:49:29 GMT -8
I think the episodes can all be viewed on YouTube in full. I should re-visit it someday as it's been years. I remember we had one of the episodes on VHS.
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Post by gljbradley on Dec 25, 2018 11:01:14 GMT -8
I think the episodes can all be viewed on YouTube in full. I should re-visit it someday as it's been years. I remember we had one of the episodes on VHS. I'll check to see if they're on YouTube.
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Dec 25, 2018 12:00:07 GMT -8
Just be sure you avoid the Alpha Commando series. That's just... words fail me. But I think the intro and theme song for it pretty much set the tone.
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Post by gljbradley on Jan 15, 2019 2:24:53 GMT -8
Just be sure you avoid the Alpha Commando series. That's just... words fail me. But I think the intro and theme song for it pretty much set the tone. I think that the intro is okay. It's just that the theme song sounds a little disjointed in terms of instrumentals and tempo. I don't think I've heard of Alpha Commando. It sounds that bad?
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Jan 15, 2019 17:43:41 GMT -8
I believe the episodes can all be viewed on YouTube. It's... well, if it wasn't RoboCop it might've been an okay cartoon but as something that's supposed to be the same RoboCop of the first movie, it just doesn't work at all. One continuity gaff that absolutely blows my mind is how the show is set in the far future and yet someone Murphy's son is still a child and not aged in the slightest.
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Post by gljbradley on Mar 4, 2019 5:26:00 GMT -8
I believe the episodes can all be viewed on YouTube. It's... well, if it wasn't RoboCop it might've been an okay cartoon but as something that's supposed to be the same RoboCop of the first movie, it just doesn't work at all. One continuity gaff that absolutely blows my mind is how the show is set in the far future and yet someone Murphy's son is still a child and not aged in the slightest. Wow. That sounds jacked up! One of the most valuable things in a story is continuity and balance. Even in cartoons.
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Mar 4, 2019 14:10:50 GMT -8
Indeed, it's like with this cartoon they didn't even care about any of that.
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Post by gljbradley on Mar 6, 2019 4:17:21 GMT -8
Indeed, it's like with this cartoon they didn't even care about any of that. And that's a shame that they didn't. Alex's son is supposed to be a little older(Correct me, if I'm wrong.) since the cartoon seemingly takes place long after the events that the first films had depicted. Continuity is key to making sure a story is coherent. Yes, it's easy to make mistakes in terms of continuity, and, depending on the circumstances, that's okay because they can probably be explained away if thought is put into it. However, careless plothole mistakes that are supposed to be important to the story can screw up the entire storyline and narrative if you're not paying attention. For the most part, the Looney Tunes are able to get away with a lack of continuity due to having one shot shorts and the characters living in a world where anything random and crazy can happen in which explanation means nothing. Whereas, a cartoon that's based on a movie franchise like this one should at least follow a decent amount of continuity.
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Mar 6, 2019 13:33:30 GMT -8
It's sadly evident when it came to Alpha Commando they didn't care about things like continuity and also preserving the satirical themes of the movie, as well as Alex Murphy's struggle to cope with his new life as a man within a machine. Alpha Commando lost all of that and when you lose that you lose the entire essence and point of the RoboCop character. It wasn't just a movie about a cyborg cop going after criminals, there was so much more depth and substance to it than that.
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Post by gljbradley on Mar 9, 2019 6:49:18 GMT -8
It's sadly evident when it came to Alpha Commando they didn't care about things like continuity and also preserving the satirical themes of the movie, as well as Alex Murphy's struggle to cope with his new life as a man within a machine. Alpha Commando lost all of that and when you lose that you lose the entire essence and point of the RoboCop character. It wasn't just a movie about a cyborg cop going after criminals, there was so much more depth and substance to it than that. RIGHT! It does lose the essence and point of Robocop as a character! This is so careless on the creators' part. They think that just because it's a cartoon for children, it has to be mindless, lack structure, and lack continuity. And as you said, they didn't care about maintaining Alex's struggle to cope with his new life and coming to terms with what had happened to him.
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Mar 9, 2019 13:13:41 GMT -8
One surprisingly strong aspect of the 80s RoboCop cartoon is despite being for kids and obviously not having the same edgy content as the movie, it still dealt with dark and mature themes that kept in-line with the film. One episode dealt with racism with a KKK-esque group prejudiced against robots, and a subject like that is heavy yet important for a kids show to tackle to show how horrible things like racism are and why it needs to be stamped out. Alpha Commando did nothing like that and came off as a silly cartoon that missed the whole point of RoboCop.
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Post by gljbradley on Mar 11, 2019 8:17:23 GMT -8
One surprisingly strong aspect of the 80s RoboCop cartoon is despite being for kids and obviously not having the same edgy content as the movie, it still dealt with dark and mature themes that kept in-line with the film. One episode dealt with racism with a KKK-esque group prejudiced against robots, and a subject like that is heavy yet important for a kids show to tackle to show how horrible things like racism are and why it needs to be stamped out. Alpha Commando did nothing like that and came off as a silly cartoon that missed the whole point of RoboCop. Wow. That's interesting and great of them to include serious content like racism into the cartoon. If only they would've worked hard to make sure the continuity was at least stable.
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Mar 11, 2019 11:28:11 GMT -8
It seemed the 80s cartoon was something of an alternative take on the storyline, likely altered to be more family-friendly. Clarence Boddicker makes an appearance despite having been killed in the film.
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