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Post by Crypt Keeper on Aug 16, 2021 16:48:38 GMT -8
Even with the best home theater equipment, at home you can just never have a screen nearly as large or wide as what you see in a theater.
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Post by gljbradley on Aug 28, 2021 20:48:49 GMT -8
Looking back at low-budget Horror and Sci-Fi films from back then it's impressive what they achieved with so little. Goes to show the biggest budget in the world means nothing without the creativity behind it. You can say that again. |
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Post by gljbradley on Aug 28, 2021 20:59:05 GMT -8
Also there was still the preference for in-camera practical effects whenever possible. So much is done digitally it seems pointless to even bother doing something live-action at all. Exactly. As much as I don't mind CGI, practical effects are like a work of art and they help make films more authentic. |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Aug 28, 2021 22:20:54 GMT -8
Absolutely. I feel when too much CGI is used it makes films feel artificial and not real enough. I've cited Terminator 2 and Jurassic Park as examples, but that's because they really are shining examples of how to properly use CGI when it's necessary. CGI wasn't a replacement for any in-camera effects in those films, merely another tool to help achieve certain types of effects.
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Post by gljbradley on Aug 28, 2021 22:48:10 GMT -8
Absolutely. I feel when too much CGI is used it makes films feel artificial and not real enough. I've cited Terminator 2 and Jurassic Park as examples, but that's because they really are shining examples of how to properly use CGI when it's necessary. CGI wasn't a replacement for any in-camera effects in those films, merely another tool to help achieve certain types of effects. Precisely! I wish that movies would go back to doing what filmmakers did on Terminator 2: Judgment Day and Jurassic Park. You must balance out the practical effects and CGI to make the films more complete, if you will. When you overuse CGI and especially not focusing on the story and characters, audiences won't care. As you said, what do they need actors for if they're going to heavily focus on the CGI? It's a shame that the entertainment industry seem to have forgotten that good quality stories and characters should be focused upon instead of constantly emphasizing CGI and spectacle. Also, I heard that James Gunn used some practical effects in The Suicide Squad. |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Aug 28, 2021 22:49:48 GMT -8
It's one of the reasons I vastly prefer films from the 80s and 90s, the preference for in-camera effects and only using CGI when it was a necessity. When there's too much CGI in films I feel like the entire movie may as well be digital.
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Post by gljbradley on Aug 28, 2021 23:12:41 GMT -8
It's one of the reasons I vastly prefer films from the 80s and 90s, the preference for in-camera effects and only using CGI when it was a necessity. When there's too much CGI in films I feel like the entire movie may as well be digital. I don't blame you. Plus, the storytelling and character development in films from the 1980s and 1990s put in a lot more effort than most films nowadays. Also, there are some people now saying that after the MCU Infinity Saga, they feel a little jaded when it comes movies with so much CGI. |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Aug 28, 2021 23:20:30 GMT -8
I definitely feel the same. CGI is just so rampant and dominant these days and it makes me yearn for the simpler days. It's one of the reasons when I got around to seeing The Wraith for the first time it felt like a nostalgic breath of fresh air to see a film so entrenched in the 80s and that relied on old-school effects and techniques. Seeing a film from a simpler time before the digital age and seeing everything onscreen actually be done in-camera, it felt so real and much better.
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Post by gljbradley on Aug 29, 2021 0:00:35 GMT -8
I definitely feel the same. CGI is just so rampant and dominant these days and it makes me yearn for the simpler days. It's one of the reasons when I got around to seeing The Wraith for the first time it felt like a nostalgic breath of fresh air to see a film so entrenched in the 80s and that relied on old-school effects and techniques. Seeing a film from a simpler time before the digital age and seeing everything onscreen actually be done in-camera, it felt so real and much better. I need to check out The Wraith for myself. Yes, it's amazing how during the simpler days, things seems better. Quality was (and in some cases, still is) more focused upon than quantity and wanting to look cool all the time. When you watch a movie with so much CGI and there's no authentic effects to back it up, you start to care less. Which reminds me, other than the MCU Infinity Saga, people have also felt similar to Avatar. Now, when it came out in 2009, it was extremely impressive. But unfortunately, that's basically the only thing people talk about nowadays concerning it. In terms of story and characters, they're not really that memorable, and that is a very bad thing. I could be exaggerating but I think Avatar was both the best and the worst thing to happen to cinema. Because now, one hand, it took filmmaking to new heights when it comes to technology. But on the other hand, we have huge blockbuster films saturated with so much CGI and barely focusing on the quality of the stories and characters. If I were a director, I would use practical effects and CGI equally. I'd rather have subpar effects in my movie and have a great story with memorable characters. |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Aug 29, 2021 2:13:56 GMT -8
The Wraith is definitely well worth a watch. I believe it's on YouTube for free with ads, definitely track it down. Awesome movie and one I wished I'd seen much sooner.
I feel the same way. I'd always want practical effects to be predominant and only use CGI when it's absolutely needed, and try to keep the CGI as minimal as possible. I find too much CGI not only makes films feel synthetic but not even like real films, more like big-budget video games with actors in them.
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Post by jman723 on Aug 29, 2021 3:05:29 GMT -8
The Wraith is the type of B movie they don’t make anymore. It’s flawed for sure but really fun
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Aug 29, 2021 13:31:41 GMT -8
It also very much feels like a progenitor to The Crow. It's not unreasonable to think it may have been an influence, as The Crow comic was first published around 1988. I'm hard-pressed to believe the film's director wasn't more than a little influenced.
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Post by jman723 on Aug 29, 2021 14:36:12 GMT -8
Movies like Wraith would never be made today. Or they would be made into a watered down pg13 version that feels more like marvel movie. It’s another reason why I don’t like too many modern movies opposed to the ones from the 80’s and 90’s
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Aug 29, 2021 14:39:20 GMT -8
Speaking of PG-13, it's pretty amazing how The Wraith got away with a PG-13 rating back then considering it has multiple topless scenes in it. The MPAA must've been asleep on that one. If it was made today it'd doubtlessly be full of CGI. It's a movie of it's times and that could never be fully replicated in this age.
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Post by jman723 on Aug 29, 2021 15:12:00 GMT -8
That’s true it was pg13 but it felt like an R. Hell the pg13 films back then were edgier than the R rated films now 😂.
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