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Post by gljbradley on Sept 11, 2019 18:07:22 GMT -8
The kind of damage TLJ did to the series for so many fans is unfortunately not just something that can be healed or forgotten overnight. Especially with how sacred Star Wars is to so many fans. And the fact that Disney and Lucasfilm STILL haven't apologized to fans for attacking and insulting them for not liking TLJ speaks volumes. They see Star Wars as a cash cow instead of a respected franchise, yet have the nerve to wonder why more fans are no longer interested. As a result, Star Wars is now a shell of its former self. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Sept 11, 2019 20:51:37 GMT -8
Disney's conduct with the fans is definitely not professional. Didn't the director of TLJ even openly insult the fans and has done so on more than a few occasions?
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Post by gljbradley on Sept 13, 2019 20:13:20 GMT -8
Disney's conduct with the fans is definitely not professional. Didn't the director of TLJ even openly insult the fans and has done so on more than a few occasions? YES! And it was on many occasions. Rian Johnson, the director of TLJ, had been continuously insulting and attacking fans, and Disney DID NOTHING TO STOP HIM. He would even attack fans online like he's a freakin' troll!!! In fact, Johnson wasn't the only one who was insulting and attacking fans. So did JJ Abrams. Abrams called fans sexist and misogynistic for not liking Rey and the other new female characters. Again, DISNEY DID NOTHING TO STOP HIM. This shows that Disney encourages this unprofessional and despicable behavior and don't give a damn about their employees attacking the fans who are also the customers. And in business, attacking your customers is a BIG NO-NO!!! |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Sept 13, 2019 20:55:27 GMT -8
That's not only immature and unprofessional but outright ungrateful when these fans are the ones who are essentially paying these peoples' rent and bills. Rian Johnson has a new movie coming out soon and I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if his attitude after the release of TLJ hurts it at the box office. Although I like JJ Abrams, that's pretty petty of him to attack fans who dislike Rey for being misogynistic when the vast majority of the criticisms against her likely have nothing to do with gender.
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Post by gljbradley on Sept 18, 2019 14:21:28 GMT -8
That's not only immature and unprofessional but outright ungrateful when these fans are the ones who are essentially paying these peoples' rent and bills. Rian Johnson has a new movie coming out soon and I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if his attitude after the release of TLJ hurts it at the box office. Although I like JJ Abrams, that's pretty petty of him to attack fans who dislike Rey for being misogynistic when the vast majority of the criticisms against her likely have nothing to do with gender. Indeed. But that's what happens when you have become too big of a company. You start to become even more GREEDY, ARROGANT and IGNORE COMMON SENSE. Disney is becoming MONSTROUS and DESTRUCTIVE. What JJ Abrams did was WRONG. He disrespected the fanbase over a character that isn't very good, and they haven't forgotten it. Thus, many are opting out of seeing TROS. |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Sept 18, 2019 16:58:00 GMT -8
That could definitely have a serious negative impact on TROS and if the film fails or underperforms, it could well be the demise of SW. Though some would argue TLJ has already caused that.
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Post by gljbradley on Sept 18, 2019 21:58:39 GMT -8
That could definitely have a serious negative impact on TROS and if the film fails or underperforms, it could well be the demise of SW. Though some would argue TLJ has already caused that. It certainly will because the damage has already been done and it is too great to fix. Also, there have been a lot of reports that TROS IS STILL undergoing reshoots and the film is only a few short months away from being released! I know that some films undergo reshoots for whatever reason. BUT NOT THIS CLOSE TO THEIR RELEASE DATES!!! This is an indication that Disney and Lucasfilm don't know what the hell they're doing with the Star Wars franchise. Back on topic, when it comes to children and R rated movies, their curiosity peaks through when they see how adults and even older teens are raving about certain R rated movies that appear to be good and exciting. Thus, they, too, want to see the films despite not being the targeted audiences. |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Sept 19, 2019 11:38:32 GMT -8
That's ridiculous if they're doing reshoots with the release so close to now. I'd imagine reshoots for a big movie like a Star Wars film are no quick or easy process.
As a kid there's a certain thrill you get from watching a film you're not allowed to and you know your family would never permit. It's the forbidden fruit factor. You know it's wrong and you'd get in trouble if caught, but you just have to do it.
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Post by gljbradley on Sept 29, 2019 18:41:47 GMT -8
That's ridiculous if they're doing reshoots with the release so close to now. I'd imagine reshoots for a big movie like a Star Wars film are no quick or easy process. As a kid, there's a certain thrill you get from watching a film you're not allowed to and you know your family would never permit. It's the forbidden fruit factor. You know it's wrong and you'd get in trouble if caught, but you just have to do it. I know. And depending on if a film has a big budget, that's absolutely no excuse to be shooting so close to the film's release date. They should've long planned out the film's plot and structure. I feel as if Lucasfilm and Disney are just changing stuff as they go along and cause so much confusion which is bad. Especially since fans have become so burned out by Star Wars at this point, the interest is just about gone. ABSOLUTELY! The thing about R rated films is that it ironically tempts children due to curiosity. And when they're told by their parents that can't watch it yet, their curiosity grows even more because they want also experience whatever is giving their parents enjoyment. I could be wrong but perhaps that's part of that feeling that kids don't want to be left out. I bet that there were millions of children decades ago that watched and loved R Rated films like the Alien, Friday the 13th, Rambo, Predator, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Terminator, Lethal Weapon, Die Hard, and RoboCop films among others. Whether they secretly watched them or their parents were okay with them watching them. I recently started using the Common Sense Media website and was looking at the reviews for It Chapter 2 (which I'll see soon) and I was kind of actually surprised that some of the parents said that they took their children to see the film and that they all enjoyed it. Though, curiously, a few of them actually said that the film should've been PG-13 instead of R which is RIDICULOUS. From what I've heard, the film has a lot of profanity, violence, and gore. There's no way on God's green Earth that that film could work as a PG-13 rated film. Plus, they must've never read the book which is STRAIGHT-UP R RATED TO THE POINT WHERE IT MAY BE MORE NC-17! But, I digress. The reason why I bring this up is due to how it's ultimately up to the parents to determine if their children are ready to watch R rated movies or not. It's their personal choice just as long as they're responsible about it and use common sense. |
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Post by gljbradley on Sept 29, 2019 18:46:47 GMT -8
Back on topic, I just realized that the Beverly Hills Cop, Lethal Weapon, and Die Hard films never had any children's toylines and cartoons. They probably had merchandise but I could be wrong about that. This is rather strange considering that most of the other prominent R rated films in the 80s had gotten their own toylines and cartoons. Thoughts?
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Sept 29, 2019 20:46:26 GMT -8
Who knows if maybe those films you mentioned initially were supposed to get kids' toylines or cartoons but they just never happened for whatever reason. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if maybe that was considered.
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Post by gljbradley on Oct 5, 2019 18:22:10 GMT -8
Who knows if maybe those films you mentioned initially were supposed to get kids' toylines or cartoons but they just never happened for whatever reason. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if maybe that was considered. Yeah. The reason why I brought them up is that they were released around the same time as the other R rated films who had toylines for children. You would think that the Beverly Hills Cop, Lethal Weapon, and Die Hard movies would've also had toylines and merchandise like the Rambo, Aliens, and RoboCop movies. But...not so which is kind of strange. Oh well. |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Oct 5, 2019 19:54:56 GMT -8
It's also bizarre how Police Academy of all films ended up spawning a toyline and animated series, given the film's very mature humor. Goes to show what a different time the 80s and 90s was.
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Post by gljbradley on Oct 6, 2019 17:51:23 GMT -8
It's also bizarre how Police Academy of all films ended up spawning a toyline and animated series, given the film's very mature humor. Goes to show what a different time the 80s and 90s were. EXACTLY! That's one of the most surprising ones for me. I didn't even know that it had an animated series until recently. Also, the original Police Academy movie was rated R while the sequels ended up being PG-13 and, I think, PG.   |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Oct 7, 2019 12:00:18 GMT -8
The original Police Academy's R-rating is definitely deserved. I would've never looked at that film and imagine it spawning PG-13 and PG sequels, a cartoon series and toyline. Just bizarre.
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