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Post by Crypt Keeper on Oct 16, 2021 17:43:25 GMT -8
I absolutely hate seeing blood and gore done digitally, it never looks good. I feel practical effects are always very crucial to Horror.
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Post by jman723 on Oct 16, 2021 17:47:14 GMT -8
Digital gore looks downright silly. Honestly I don’t need gore BUT practical effects always look the best.
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Oct 16, 2021 20:47:34 GMT -8
Absolutely. CGI has it's place with certain effects that are too difficult or outright impossible to do practically, but when it can be done in-camera there's no reason at all not to do so. I don't mind CGI in movies like Jurassic Park where it was used in conjunction with the live-action dinosaurs, but when it's used for everything it feels very fake.
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Post by jman723 on Oct 17, 2021 4:51:45 GMT -8
Yes the overuse of cgi has really ruined the experience fir me as well as the lack of good storytelling and originality. If you look back at the 80’s and 90’s you will see a lot of movies that fell under the radar but still got made when those type of movies are t be made anymore. I was watching the Fly(1986) last night and I was thinking to myself “This movie would never be made today”
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Oct 17, 2021 13:21:22 GMT -8
The 1986 Fly remake is excellent and I even like it's sequel very much. Movies like that are the pinnacle of 80s Horror with what could be accomplished with in-camera effects. Another thing that worked great is they weren't built around the effects, they were there to help tell the story.
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Post by jman723 on Oct 17, 2021 14:01:07 GMT -8
Absolutely. I think what makes the Fly such a good movie besides the great acting from Jeff Goldblum and the effects is the FACT that it’s really a tragic love story. I’m not into the romance genre at all but like you said the story is what sold it. I also like the fact that it pretty much took place in one location so it had a claustrophobic feel to it which was effective. I also like the Fly 2. Obviously it’s nowhere near the quality of the durst film BUT it’s more of a throwback to monster movies of the 50’s and it succeeds in doing that I feel
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Oct 17, 2021 15:49:04 GMT -8
The Fly II to me feels like a superhero monster film. Obviously quite different from the film before it, but I like that it did something different and didn't retread the first all over again. Both films have excellent creature and gore effects that still look very convincing today.
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Post by jman723 on Oct 17, 2021 16:45:30 GMT -8
Cronenberg is really in a class of his own. His body horror films would never be made today. Videodrome(1983)is probably my favorite of his
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Oct 17, 2021 17:01:28 GMT -8
I still have to see Videodrome. I saw The Dead Zone for the first time last month and it's excellent. A film I wish I'd seen much sooner.
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Post by jman723 on Oct 17, 2021 17:42:00 GMT -8
Dead Zone is very good. Videodrome is terrific.
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Oct 17, 2021 19:34:59 GMT -8
I've been meaning to see Videodrome for a long time. I know Rick Baker worked on the special effects and he's among my favorite make-up artists.
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Post by jman723 on Oct 18, 2021 2:58:29 GMT -8
Yeah I have the criterion bluray if it. I think it’s on prime and/or shudder
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Oct 18, 2021 7:11:14 GMT -8
I didn't even know Criterion put it out on Blu-ray. I might be able to order it through Barnes & Noble and use my employee discount, as they carry Criterion titles.
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Post by jman723 on Oct 18, 2021 15:57:51 GMT -8
Yup I bought the criterion years ago during its Barnes and noble half off sale. Highly recommended. My two favorite Criterions are vidrodrome and night of the Hunter
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Oct 18, 2021 16:11:21 GMT -8
Cronenberg is also a very good actor. He was Decker in Nightbreed, which is an excellent film even in it's massively altered form.
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