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Post by gljbradley on Dec 20, 2018 23:35:41 GMT -8
I've been thinking after I had recently posted on one of my threads on here about the topic of R rated movies. The thread is called "Horror Movie References in Superhero Films". It started when I was responding to Crypt Keeper about how superhero films are afraid to dive deep into horror. He made a great point as to how superheroes often don't dwell in the genre of horror that much. This is because movie studios still want that kid demographic and keep it "family friendly". However, there should be a variety for both children and adults in the superhero genre as well as within all of the genres.
There's an upcoming film called Brightburn starring Elizabeth Banks which is said to be a mixture of the superhero and horror genres. The trailer looks great and the concept sounds intriguing and amazing. I describe it as Man of Steel meets The Omen. Lol! Looking at some of the comments in the comments section of the trailer video and the reaction videos, some believe that this movie might get an R rating by the looks of some of the images. However, knowing Hollyweird, they just might make it PG-13. I don't put anything past them at this point.
This issue has been bothering me for a very, very long time. For the last decade or so, so many films that originally geared toward adults have suffered by being censored into a lower rating in order to earn more money and to appease parents who seem to not know that there are certain things that their children shouldn't be seeing at their young ages. And the crazy thing about this is that even the other ratings like G, PG, and the NC-17 are almost non-existent now. The PG-13 rating has been overused to death and it's starting to get much, much worse.
At the cost of artistic creativity, relevance to the mature tone of the story and quality, these movie studios end up tampering with a lot of originally R rated films and make them PG-13 even though a lot of these films end up not even appealing to children at all and bomb at the box office. Thus, them losing even more money. It's happened so many times and Hollyweird still doesn't get it. If a film is meant to be R rated, let it be R rated. Same goes for any other rating. But ESPECIALLY the R rating.
I wish that there would be more R rated films by filmmakers who aren't afraid to stand up against Hollyweird and the MPAA system. Only time will tell if that will occur. As I've said before, there should be a variety of films for children and adults. We don't need every single film to be PG-13, or R, or G, etc. There should be a mixture of films with different ratings for different aged people. Not almost every single film being the same watered-down rating.
Any thoughts?
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Dec 20, 2018 23:49:27 GMT -8
I firmly believe that material that's meant to be R-rated should remain as such and not be neutered for the sake of selling more tickets or DVD/Blu-ray copies. A movie that's supposed to be a PG or PG-13 with mass appeal to family audiences is fine, but when you've got a film that has material that can only be properly done within the freedom of an R-rating then that's the route to go.
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Post by gljbradley on Dec 21, 2018 0:11:58 GMT -8
I firmly believe that material that's meant to be R-rated should remain as such and not be neutered for the sake of selling more tickets or DVD/Blu-ray copies. A movie that's supposed to be a PG or PG-13 with mass appeal to family audiences is fine, but when you've got a film that has material that can only be properly done within the freedom of an R-rating then that's the route to go. Exactly! The studios should leave those who make films that are R rated alone and allow them to make the films they want. They should be worrying about making good quality films regardless of the rating, instead of using the lowered rating to garner a lot of money from the kid demographic for a film that was supposed to be for adults. |
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Post by jman723 on Jan 27, 2021 17:39:50 GMT -8
I also agree that R Rated films should make a comeback. Growing up in the 80’s and 90’s you really had either R rated films or PG rated films. PG-13 was around but not as popular as the other two. However over the past 15 years or do the superhero/Marvel genre has made the majority of films PG-13 which is fine but they aren’t nearly as interesting. I really miss those dark edgy 90’s thrillers and action films that were always R
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Post by gljbradley on Feb 5, 2021 15:22:46 GMT -8
I also agree that R Rated films should make a comeback. Growing up in the 80’s and 90’s you really had either R rated films or PG rated films. PG-13 was around but not as popular as the other two. However over the past 15 years or do the superhero/Marvel genre has made the majority of films PG-13 which is fine but they aren’t nearly as interesting. I really miss those dark edgy 90’s thrillers and action films that were always R Hopefully, with the recent successful releases like the John Wick films, The Revenant, the Deadpool films, the It films, Joker, 1917, and Bad Boys For Life, R rated blockbusters would be more accepted again. Don't get me wrong. Some movies need to be rated PG-13 concerning their content and material. However, unfortunately, Hollyweird has misused and abused the PG-13 rating so much in the last 15 years or so due to greed and censorship. The worst is when filmmakers shoot their films with the intention of an R rating and the studios tamper with the films and make them a lower rating like PG-13 to appeal to younger audiences. People are sick and tired of Hollyweird doing this crap and are leaning toward wanting more R rated blockbusters again. There's this awesome video that kind of breaks this down and it's by the YouTube Channel, GoodBadFlicks. |
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Post by jman723 on Feb 5, 2021 18:05:28 GMT -8
I also agree that R Rated films should make a comeback. Growing up in the 80’s and 90’s you really had either R rated films or PG rated films. PG-13 was around but not as popular as the other two. However over the past 15 years or do the superhero/Marvel genre has made the majority of films PG-13 which is fine but they aren’t nearly as interesting. I really miss those dark edgy 90’s thrillers and action films that were always R Hopefully, with the recent successful releases like the John Wick films, The Revenant, the Deadpool films, the It films, Joker, 1917, and Bad Boys For Life, R rated blockbusters would be more accepted again. Don't get me wrong. Some movies need to be rated PG-13 concerning their content and material. However, unfortunately, Hollyweird has misused and abused the PG-13 rating so much in the last 15 years or so due to greed and censorship. The worst is when filmmakers shoot their films with the intention of an R rating and the studios tamper with the films and make them a lower rating like PG-13 to appeal to younger audiences. People are sick and tired of Hollyweird doing this crap and are leaning toward wanting more R rated blockbusters again. There's this awesome video that kind of breaks this down and it's by the YouTube Channel, GoodBadFlicks. Yeah but even those movies aren’t the same as those dark 90’s thrillers. Even if they are rated R they are pretty light IMO |
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Post by gljbradley on Feb 5, 2021 19:17:53 GMT -8
Hopefully, with the recent successful releases like the John Wick films, The Revenant, the Deadpool films, the It films, Joker, 1917, and Bad Boys For Life, R rated blockbusters would be more accepted again. Don't get me wrong. Some movies need to be rated PG-13 concerning their content and material. However, unfortunately, Hollyweird has misused and abused the PG-13 rating so much in the last 15 years or so due to greed and censorship. The worst is when filmmakers shoot their films with the intention of an R rating and the studios tamper with the films and make them a lower rating like PG-13 to appeal to younger audiences. People are sick and tired of Hollyweird doing this crap and are leaning toward wanting more R rated blockbusters again. There's this awesome video that kind of breaks this down and it's by the YouTube Channel, GoodBadFlicks. Yeah but even those movies aren’t the same as those dark 90’s thrillers. Even if they are rated R they are pretty light IMO I kind of see what you mean. When you look back at not only the 90s R rated thriller films, but also films from some of the other genres, they are very dark and don't hold back. It's like after the 90s, Hollyweird has lost their nerves and started slowly but surely water some things down. But some of the R rated films that were released in the last couple of years are still pretty dark. The filmmakers who made those films I mentioned seem to slowly but surely bring back the edge. |
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Post by jman723 on Feb 6, 2021 16:16:43 GMT -8
Yeah but even those movies aren’t the same as those dark 90’s thrillers. Even if they are rated R they are pretty light IMO I kind of see what you mean. When you look back at not only the 90s R rated thriller films, but also films from some of the other genres, they are very dark and don't hold back. It's like after the 90s, Hollyweird has lost their nerves and started slowly but surely water some things down. But some of the R rated films that were released in the last couple of years are still pretty dark. The filmmakers who made those films I mentioned seem to slowly but surely bring back the edge . Even action films aren’t the same. They rely too much on CGI and humor that seems forced. Movies like Point Break, Speed, and In the Line of Fire Are type of action films that they don’t make anymore |
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Post by gljbradley on Feb 6, 2021 17:21:15 GMT -8
I kind of see what you mean. When you look back at not only the 90s R rated thriller films, but also films from some of the other genres, they are very dark and don't hold back. It's like after the 90s, Hollyweird has lost their nerves and started slowly but surely water some things down. But some of the R rated films that were released in the last couple of years are still pretty dark. The filmmakers who made those films I mentioned seem to slowly but surely bring back the edge . Even action films aren’t the same. They rely too much on CGI and humor that seems forced. Movies like Point Break, Speed, and In the Line of Fire Are type of action films that they don’t make anymore Good point. There's something about the way 90s action films like those films that feel so authentic and enthralling. |
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Post by jman723 on Feb 6, 2021 17:28:23 GMT -8
Even action films aren’t the same. They rely too much on CGI and humor that seems forced. Movies like Point Break, Speed, and In the Line of Fire Are type of action films that they don’t make anymore Good point. There's something about the way 90s action films like those films that feel so authentic and enthralling. Agreed. As big of a movie buff as I am there aren’t many current films that enthrall me that much |
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Post by gljbradley on Feb 6, 2021 18:32:07 GMT -8
Good point. There's something about the way 90s action films like those films that feel so authentic and enthralling. Agreed. As big of a movie buff as I am there aren’t many current films that enthrall me that much I understand. The majority of films nowadays, whether they're action films or films from other genres, are not that interesting. Don't get me wrong. There are some films that came out in recent years that are great. But overall, it's like that cinematic passion that was there in the 90s and decades before isn't there nowadays which is a shame. |
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Post by jman723 on Feb 6, 2021 19:26:58 GMT -8
Agreed. As big of a movie buff as I am there aren’t many current films that enthrall me that much I understand. The majority of films nowadays, whether they're action films or films from other genres, are not that interesting. Don't get me wrong. There are some films that came out in recent years that are great. But overall, it's like that cinematic passion that was there in the 90s and decades before isn't there nowadays which is a shame . Agreed. My wife and I just watch old movies many that I’ve seen but she hasn’t and she loves most of them |
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Post by gljbradley on Feb 6, 2021 23:19:08 GMT -8
I understand. The majority of films nowadays, whether they're action films or films from other genres, are not that interesting. Don't get me wrong. There are some films that came out in recent years that are great. But overall, it's like that cinematic passion that was there in the 90s and decades before isn't there nowadays which is a shame . Agreed. My wife and I just watch old movies many that I’ve seen but she hasn’t and she loves most of them I concur. I've been watching a few old movies in the last several months and I really enjoy them. In particular, I enjoyed the first two Rambo films. |
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Post by jman723 on Feb 7, 2021 6:34:38 GMT -8
Agreed. My wife and I just watch old movies many that I’ve seen but she hasn’t and she loves most of them I concur. I've been watching a few old movies in the last several months and I really enjoy them. In particular, I enjoyed the first two Rambo films . Yes Rambo films are fun. Last night we watched Sorry, Wrong Number(1948). Great thriller/film noir with an ending they would never make today |
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Post by gljbradley on Feb 27, 2021 18:51:44 GMT -8
I concur. I've been watching a few old movies in the last several months and I really enjoy them. In particular, I enjoyed the first two Rambo films . Yes Rambo films are fun. Last night we watched Sorry, Wrong Number(1948). Great thriller/film noir with an ending they would never make today Sorry for the late reply. My family and I were dealing with the ice and snow storms. Yes, the Rambo films are fun. Though, to me, not only are they fun. They are surprisingly thought-provoking. I've heard of Sorry, Wrong Number but never seen it. I might check it out. |
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