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Post by gljbradley on Aug 19, 2019 14:19:38 GMT -8
It really is a complete package of a movie. It works so well as an Action and Sci-Fi film, but also as a biting and sharp satire on corporate greed and consumerism, and how technology is overtaking our lives. It's a Sci-Fi that feels very real and relevant, and like it's only a matter of time before a dystopian future like presented in the film could really become real, someday. We're probably not all that far off from something like RoboCop and ED-209 really existing someday, and in a sense, they already do with things like drones. I remember the RoboCop: Prime Directives mini-series was also cheap and clearly suffered from lack of a budget and a lot of the same cheesiness that plagued the third film and the Alpha Commando cartoon. Thing is it actually tried to harken back to the darker tone of the first but failed badly at it. I'd love to see a RoboCop vs. Terminator crossover film done right but sadly the time has probably passed for it, with how much older both Arnold and Peter Weller now are. I admire that he isn't letting his advancing age stop him, but even I got to admit that at 72 it's pretty unbelievable that Arnold is still reprising The Terminator. Amen!!! The film has hit all of the right spots about satire, corporate greed, and the ever-increasing advancement of technology. I especially agree about what the film depicts isn't too far off from real life, especially with drones. It's scary to think that any of the things that happen in the film concerning technology are plausible. Also, if you don't mind me adding on to what you've correctly assessed, the film also does a beautiful job of exploring human nature and humanity. Just the thought of losing your humanity due to trauma and technology sounds AWFUL, and destroying your fellow man just to make money or for sick thrills is BEYOND EVIL. I've read about that cartoon and it sounds lame. SMH. They shouldn't have created it if they didn't have a good budget and didn't stick to the original film's dark tone. It would be cool to see a RoboCop vs Terminator film in a similar manner to Freddy vs Jason. But hey. At least we have the comic book version. |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Aug 19, 2019 15:10:16 GMT -8
The remake from back in 2014 although not a bad film from my memory was so forgettable and just didn't resonate the same way the original did. The original still feels timely and relevant today, which I think is a big part of the reason it still holds up and has an impact. It was timely then but in many ways also ahead of it's time.
Prime Directives was actually a live-action mini-series, but it was pretty terrible regardless. I remember the short-lived 90s live-action show was hit and miss, had it's share of good episodes but held back by being too neutered. It lacked the graphic violence of the first two which severely blunted it.
There's also the awesome RVT video game for the Genesis which is still a lot of fun all these years later.
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Post by gljbradley on Aug 22, 2019 7:20:56 GMT -8
The remake from back in 2014 although not a bad film from my memory was so forgettable and just didn't resonate the same way the original did. The original still feels timely and relevant today, which I think is a big part of the reason it still holds up and has an impact. It was timely then but in many ways also ahead of its time. Prime Directives was actually a live-action mini-series, but it was pretty terrible regardless. I remember the short-lived 90s live-action show was hit and miss, had its share of good episodes but held back by being too neutered. It lacked the graphic violence of the first two which severely blunted it. There's also the awesome RVT video game for the Genesis which is still a lot of fun all these years later. Exactly. The original Robocop was AND still is both timely and way ahead of its time. To this day, it's still being talked about and analyzed. Not to mention, it's the kind of film that you can't help but stop and look at whenever it's on. It doesn't matter what you're doing. If it's on TV or someone is watching it through whatever means, you watch it. Even in that hilarious KFC Commercial where Colonel Robocop, voiced by Peter Weller himself, shows up to offer the product to a family of four watching the film in their living room, the family seems focused on the film. I haven't seen the 2014 remake. I've seen clips of it online and it doesn't seem that interesting to me. Don't get wrong. I actually like some of the concepts and liberties that they decided to take like the use of evolving new technology and the fact that they allowed Murphy to keep his family. But, by the looks of it and from what I've read, it's not as profound and powerful as the original when it comes things like satire, consumerism, corruption, and dealing with humanity. I might check out that cartoon. Wow. The game does look interesting and cool. Even he looks cool in the game. |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Aug 22, 2019 12:56:38 GMT -8
It's an awesome game and still fun to play all these years later. Really nails the feel of the first two Terminator and RoboCop films. I remember playing it as a kid back then and having so much fun, and being blown away by how insanely gory it is.
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Post by gljbradley on Aug 23, 2019 16:39:44 GMT -8
It's an awesome game and still fun to play all these years later. Really nails the feel of the first two Terminator and RoboCop films. I remember playing it as a kid back then and having so much fun, and being blown away by how insanely gory it is. It sure is gory.  |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Aug 23, 2019 18:24:25 GMT -8
The Genesis version is the one to get with all of the gore. The Super NES version unfortunately removes all of the gore.
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Post by gljbradley on Aug 27, 2019 19:20:14 GMT -8
The Genesis version is the one to get with all of the gore. The Super NES version unfortunately removes all of the gore. Booooooo.
Say, I don't know why I haven't brought this up before but I just realized that the Robocop and Spawn films are almost identical, even down to how both characters' first names are basically Al.
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Aug 28, 2019 12:25:28 GMT -8
It's been so long since I last saw the 1997 Spawn film (it wasn't too good from my memory). But indeed, RoboCop and Spawn do have some interesting similarities when you examine them.
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Post by gljbradley on Aug 29, 2019 20:17:46 GMT -8
It's been so long since I last saw the 1997 Spawn film (it wasn't too good from my memory). But indeed, RoboCop and Spawn do have some interesting similarities when you examine them. I understand. I still like the film but even I'll admit it has a lot of problems. Yes, there are several striking similarities between both films AND characters. It's incredible! |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Aug 29, 2019 23:32:27 GMT -8
Makes me want to see a RoboCop and Spawn crossover done as a comic book. Not so much a movie but it's just fine for a non-canon comic crossover.
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Post by gljbradley on Aug 30, 2019 20:04:30 GMT -8
Makes me want to see a RoboCop and Spawn crossover done as a comic book. Not so much a movie but it's just fine for a non-canon comic crossover. Now, THAT would be SO AWESOME! What do you think the story would be about how these two characters meet up? |
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Aug 31, 2019 12:15:33 GMT -8
Perhaps Spawn is somehow in Detroit where RoboCop/Murphy is on duty. Maybe Spawn is after an escaped soul from Hell and along the way kills some criminals, getting the attention of RoboCop. I could even see the evil spirit of Clarence Boddicker playing a role in it. Boddicker would've no doubt gone straight to Hell after the first movie, and if there were ever a character in film history deserving of it it's surely him.
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Post by gljbradley on Aug 31, 2019 20:31:05 GMT -8
Perhaps Spawn is somehow in Detroit where RoboCop/Murphy is on duty. Maybe Spawn is after an escaped soul from Hell and along the way kills some criminals, getting the attention of RoboCop. I could even see the evil spirit of Clarence Boddicker playing a role in it. Boddicker would've no doubt gone straight to Hell after the first movie, and if there were ever a character in film history deserving of it it's surely him. THAT WOULD BE BADASS!!!! The synopsis by itself sounds COOL AF!!!
Yes, Clarence Boddicker would've gone straight to Hell after being killed. The fucker MORE THAN DESERVES IT. If you don't mind me adding onto your story idea, I imagine that Boddicker would end up purposefully haunting Murphy/Robocop and would threaten the few people Murphy has left who care about him like Officer Lewis. Then, Murphy would have no other choice but to have Spawn help him get rid Boddicker and he ends up finding out that Spawn is Al Simmons. Thoughts?
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Post by Crypt Keeper on Sept 1, 2019 0:42:21 GMT -8
I like that idea a lot. The more I think about it, the more this really seems like a good fit for a comic crossover. I think there could be some fun scenarios too with cybernetically enhanced demons.
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Post by gljbradley on Sept 1, 2019 18:55:20 GMT -8
I like that idea a lot. The more I think about it, the more this really seems like a good fit for a comic crossover. I think there could be some fun scenarios too with cybernetically enhanced demons. Totally! The scenarios of cybernetically enhanced demons sound not only fun but also scary and badass. This may seem little off, but maybe with that, Al Simmons/Spawn would probably help out the OCP company and the Detroit police department(that is if they aren't scared shitless of him) with this problem and help catch Boddicker's EVIL spirit. Btw, I bet that Murphy/Robocop would, at some point, just somehow find a file on Al Simmons in his database and realize that he's suffered similarly to him. |
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